Yelof, thanks for that . Just goes to show not everyone succombs to the heat of the moment.
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
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The problem with plays is the gritty little details are often not true, which leads the play goers to think they know the true story, when in fact they don't.
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By that logic we should only ever have plays which are set in fantasy worlds for fear of accidentally giving someone the wrong impression.
Generally people who go to a play know that it's the playwrite's own interpretation of events ( on the occassions where real life has been the inspiration) Shakespeare was not an authority on the life of kings and nobody looks to Arthur Miller if they wish to get an authoritative history of the events surrounding either the witchhunts or McCarthyism.
Gritty little details are one of the things I pick out as common in Les Smith's plays. He is a political playwrite, his plays are there to tell stories he thinks should be told. Generally speaking the people watching and the people producing those plays know this. The other stylistic feature I picked out was his lyricism, which I think would prevent anybody from accidentally believing they were watching a documentary. I do however think he may have had a reasonable insight into the events given the several years of research and the interviews with some ofthe people concerned.
Originally posted by jaguar
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The british case is a funny one, it appears the pictures were faked, I wouldn't be shocked if the Mirror made up the whole thing. It is the Mirror after all.
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The Mirror has a habit of making up stuff about celebs...Gossip and so forth. When it comes to more weighty matters their track record is pretty good. Currently another soldier is talking to Officials at the MoD about further allegations of abuse. This soldier also approached the Mirror with his allegations. Piers Morgan is standing by his sources and indeed there are other soldiers who have refuted some ( though not all) ofthe evidence for the pictures being faked;for instance, the truck which has been reported as not being used by the army in Iraq is in fact in use by the territorial Army in Iraq. The headgear which was said to not be in use in Iraq it seemingly in fact is, as is evidenced by several other photos of other events in Iraq showing very clearly soldiers wearing that particular type of hat.
There is still much about the photos that doesnt quite ring right for me though....People are starting to suggest now, that the photos may have been a reconstruction of actual events. If that's the case then it's a little disengenuous of the rest of the press to focus on the potential for fake photographs when the verifiable evidence is now starting to emerge of serious breaches of human rights in Iraq at the hands of members of the British forces.
If that's the case then it is highly unlikely to be the mirror which has falked the evidence butrather the soldiers who brought it tothem. Since nobody has thus far been able to categorically prove them fakes, one must assume that the mirror also was unable to prove their veracity and instead made the judgement call that this was an issue of grave importance which neded to be brought tothe attention of the public. Now I realise they must have also had in mind the sale of newspapers, but I have noticed in the last few years that the mirror has a decided tendency to stick to it's guns on an issue even when there is an enormous pressure to back off ( as with the start of the Iraq war when the calls for dissenters to stand behind the troops in time of war were vociferous and showing the other side was dangerous to a profit making paper) They also show a remarkable reluctance to jump on the anti asylum issue despite the fact that many of their readership would probably accept it and some even welcome it. They have consistently takenthe opposing side to that, choosing instead to run features about the "Myths" surrounding asylum seekers and the newcomer states to Europe.
I dont suggest for a moment that they would continue to take that tack if they started to fail as a business nr do I hold them up as bringers of truth but I do think that Piers Morgan takes his journalistic integrity seriously when deaing with matters of grave importance such as war, warcrimes and fascist whispers in the British winds.