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Old 09-09-2016, 08:10 PM   #20
sexobon
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... studying the historical evidence of centuries, I can find no evidence for such beliefs. ...
Yeah, sure you did. perhaps with just a wee bit of confirmation bias.

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... Greater participation just gives the consent of more people. It does not improve the quality of persons elected, nor the likelihood that they will really represent their "constituents". ...
Greater participation is more conditional consent. Non-participation is unconditional consent. You've obviously never corresponded with any of your representatives.

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... However, in real politics it is the special interests and campaign funders whose concerns don't get ignored. ...
Those of us who are still well grounded in reality know it's both voters and special interests.

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... The votes of the losers are counted for the winners as people who support the system and consent to whatever it does. ...
The votes of the winners are also counted as people who support the system. Neither winners nor losers consent to whatever it does which is why there are impeachment and recall procedures. You're not playing with a full deck.

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... However, it is my contention that what government does is mostly bad for most of us, and will mostly always be. ...
So you're simply an anarchist masquerading as a new thinker.

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... However, they mostly just pretend to oppose each other to keep their minions hyped up. When there is something truly odious to do, they cooperate greatly and pass it as bi-partisan ...
Paranoia, you? Nooooooooooooooooooo, yeah.

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... threads of new thinking.
They're turning out to be a lot like the emperor's new clothes.

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