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Originally posted by Troubleshooter
My point was that it's possible that it doesn't have the desired deterrent effect because people know the liklihood that they will actully be executed is so slim as to be effectively zero and that their lives inside are better than their lives outside.
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How do you figure their lives will be better inside? Convicted murderers are not sent to "country club" prisons, by a long shot.
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Originally posted by Episode
This is a pretty interesting debate, so of course, I'd like to throw a big left turn into it...
Question for the antis...if you are being attacked, is it alright for you to kill in self-defense? I mean, what if the assailant is insane and not responsible for their actions, or perhaps they were motivated by extreme need or hunger or something else that society was ultimately responsible for?
When *is* killing for protection, either personal or societal, justified?
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I would kill in self defense if forced to. In fact, I once actually made a plan to kill someone. This man had been stalking me for three years. He once pushed me out of a moving car. Another time he came after me in a parking lot at 2:00am with a length of re-barb. I got a restraining order on this individual and changed my phone number. Somehow, he got my new phone number and left threatening messages on my phone. He cruised my house on a daily basis. He stole my cat and actually held it hostage. The last straw was when he began to leave messages on my phone that he was going to kill my mother and my best friend. I had a friend who was a tough ass biker chick and I had my Dad’s military officer’s gun – a semi-automatic colt 45. My biker chick friend told me that the next time this creep came to my door that I should sit down in my living room with the gun and shout taunting remarks at him which would cause him to become enraged and break the door down (he’d done this once before). I was to wait until he was inside the room and then shoot him. My friend said that if I hit him and he kept coming, to shoot him again. We rehearsed the whole thing, and I was mentally prepared to do it. Colorado has a “make my day” law, and I would have been acting in self defense. Thank God, I never had to do this. The police picked up the guy on a warrant he had from out of state and I never saw him again.
I still do not believe in the death penalty, however. Had this monster killed my mother or best friend, frying him would not have brought them back. His death in the first scenario would have saved their lives. Life without parole would have prevented him from harming anyone else in the second.
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And do you know why I'll be the last liberal standing? Because I'll have a motherfucking gun! [/b]
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We’ll be the last TWO liberals standing (see above).