Thread: The Draft
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Old 04-27-2004, 08:50 AM   #90
Radar
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Would you argue that we don't own this land, that the native americans have legal claim to it? If not, then why
The American Indians had no claim at all to the land because even in their own culture they didn't recognize land ownership, but supposing they did, they lost a war. To the victor goes the spoils. In my opinion, they shouldn't have even gotten reservations. They should live, work, and be subject to the same laws as everyone else without being handed a check when they turn 18.

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Radar needs a refresher course on property rights. He believes that because the Palestinians had no State they had no rights.
Nobody said they had no rights, but they had no ownership at all of the property. The property has been in the hands of several empires (British, Ottoman, Roman, Egyptian, etc.) but was never owned by the people who were staying on it. And until Israel started building there weren't even many squatters.

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This is where his atheism gets in the way of his libertarianism. Radar is a Statist.
I'm not a statist in your wettest or my driest dreams. I'm not a statist by any stretch of the rational mind. And my atheism doesn't get in the way of anything or have anything to do with the subject of property rights.

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I dont understand what atheism has to do with it....I am an atheist. I find it helps me see the world more clearly not less....
Being an atheist doesn't have anything to do with it. That's just griff's poor attempt to try to insult me. And apparantly atheism doesn't make you see more clearly because you are trying to justify terrorism and calling those who defend themselves and their property the monsters.

It's not your lack of religion that's the problem, it's your warped value system.
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