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Old 12-18-2014, 01:20 PM   #127
BigV
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Originally Posted by crweeks64 View Post
There is such a double standard with a lot of these posts. I guess you "I told you so" people on Benghazi were the same people who said this should have been over a long time ago. Yet, I guess, you all also think the "Senate" report on torture is somehow still relevant many years later. What a hatchet job! Let's face it there are idiots i.e. political opportunists on both sides. The Dems got their clocks cleaned in the last election and they will resort to anything to switch the attention back to Bush/Cheyney. Enjoy the next two years! You deserve it!
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Originally Posted by BigV View Post
We've had numerous reports about the "Benghazi incident" (tm). None of them turned up anything like the hoped-for scandal heavily promoted by Fox News and their ilk. Lots of looking, lots of investigation, and no evidence of wrongdoing.

The " "Senate" " (really? that needs ironic quotes? we're talking about the same Senate, right?) report on torture reveals new information, in stark contrast to the expected standard of behavior by the CIA. I don't see the double standard you're talking about.


Political opportunists on both sides? all sides. Hell yeah. But that should still not make a non-event worth worrying about (Benghazi) or excuse torture (CIA), regardless of the political motivations of the messenger.
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Would they feel better if it was a vast conspiracy?
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Originally Posted by sexobon View Post
In that context, I took the use of the term non-event to mean not a scandal (i.e. not an action or event regarded as morally or legally wrong) by the US government.

The government sends soldiers and diplomats into harm's way all the time. There are no guarantees of safety.
sexobon's understanding of my meaning is precisely correct. well put, sexobon, thanks.

We've been talking about the relative scandalousness of these two events. One's been the subject of considerable investigation and no vast conspiracy uncovered. The other has had less investigation, but alarming evidence of wrongdoing has been found. That's the difference.
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