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OnyxCougar · 03-31-2004, 07:06 PM

***sigh*** No, LB is NOT guiding my hand.

vitriolic :acidic; shitty;

TS: The only desire I ever had to go to Africa was a vestigial reflex to reinstate an old family tradition.

LJ: I hope you're not hinting at what I think you're hinting at

TS: That's why I called it a vestigial reflex. Besides, the plantation fell in the river about 20 years ago.

LJ: whatever, massa

TS: Not me. That was at least 4 generations ago.

LJ: your family history does not interest me. the fact that you would post that post is, however, rather enlightening.

TS: That I'm not overburdened with guilt over a historical issue that I had no part in?

LJ: no, that's not what I was thinking. And if I need to spell it out for you, you won't hear it anyway. carry on

TS: I don't believe that you know me well enough to make that assessment. Has there been any point in my time here that I've indicated a lack of desire to accept new ideas? Isn't it worth effort to be sure?

LJ: no. I don;t really care that much about whether or not you are open minded. I just thought it was a fucked up comment. Perhaps you meant it as a harmless joke. Maybe you really are a repressed racist. Either way, my opinion on the matter matters very little. I do know enough about you to know that you will argue well past the point of both of our points being made. I feel like I've made my point. If you have need of more time and more posts to justify your position on this particular matter, go ahead and lay it out. I'll probably read it.
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I'm wondering if she was surprised that I didn't rake him through it really bad, and defame his character. I was experimenting with subtlety.......It seems to have been effective in this case.

I HAVE read it, and since you "started it" by calling him massa, I think he had every right to defend himself by saying that he is not a slave owner, that it was 4 generations ago. Instead of letting it lie, you then say you don't care that he is not a slave master, but that his post is enlightening. In the context of the post, one would infer you consider him to be racist. Instead of speaking plainly, you attempt to "subtly" call him a racist. TS responds, subtly asking you to speak plainly and cut the crap. You reply with "If I have to explain it you wouldn't listen" passive-aggressiveness, in the process, calling TS closeminded.
He replies he is not closeminded and further says that you can look at his track record here on the cellar to prove it. Then jim say that it really doesn't matter, he's "made his point" although he never clearly stated it, and then says if TS wants to prove that he's not a racist, he'll "probably" read it.

First of all, if you're gonna call someone a racist, call him a racist and don't be a pussy about it. Secondly, if anyone calls ME a racist, and I get my hands on them they'll be eating their nuts for breakfast. Thirdly, it was a fucking joke. And with all the bad jokes you've throw around here, jim, I'd have thought you'd be more understanding instead of calling people a racist.

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03-31-2004, 07:06 PM	#5
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	*sigh* No, LB is NOT guiding my hand. vitriolic :acidic; shitty; TS: The only desire I ever had to go to Africa was a vestigial reflex to reinstate an old family tradition. LJ: I hope you're not hinting at what I think you're hinting at TS: That's why I called it a vestigial reflex. Besides, the plantation fell in the river about 20 years ago. LJ: whatever, massa TS: Not me. That was at least 4 generations ago. LJ: your family history does not interest me. the fact that you would post that post is, however, rather enlightening. TS: That I'm not overburdened with guilt over a historical issue that I had no part in? LJ: no, that's not what I was thinking. And if I need to spell it out for you, you won't hear it anyway. carry on TS: I don't believe that you know me well enough to make that assessment. Has there been any point in my time here that I've indicated a lack of desire to accept new ideas? Isn't it worth effort to be sure? LJ: no. I don;t really care that much about whether or not you are open minded. I just thought it was a fucked up comment. Perhaps you meant it as a harmless joke. Maybe you really are a repressed racist. Either way, my opinion on the matter matters very little. I do know enough about you to know that you will argue well past the point of both of our points being made. I feel like I've made my point. If you have need of more time and more posts to justify your position on this particular matter, go ahead and lay it out. I'll probably read it. --- I'm wondering if she was surprised that I didn't rake him through it really bad, and defame his character. I was experimenting with subtlety.......It seems to have been effective in this case. I HAVE read it, and since you "started it" by calling him massa, I think he had every right to defend himself by saying that he is not a slave owner, that it was 4 generations ago. Instead of letting it lie, you then say you don't care that he is not a slave master, but that his post is enlightening. In the context of the post, one would infer you consider him to be racist. Instead of speaking plainly, you attempt to "subtly" call him a racist. TS responds, subtly asking you to speak plainly and cut the crap. You reply with "If I have to explain it you wouldn't listen" passive-aggressiveness, in the process, calling TS closeminded. He replies he is not closeminded and further says that you can look at his track record here on the cellar to prove it. Then jim say that it really doesn't matter, he's "made his point" although he never clearly stated it, and then says if TS wants to prove that he's not a racist, he'll "probably" read it. First of all, if you're gonna call someone a racist, call him a racist and don't be a pussy about it. Secondly, if anyone calls ME a racist, and I get my hands on them they'll be eating their nuts for breakfast. Thirdly, it was a fucking joke. And with all the bad jokes you've throw around here, jim, I'd have thought you'd be more understanding instead of calling people a racist. [/rant]