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Old 09-22-2013, 08:16 AM   #41
Lamplighter
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Picky, picky, picky... Adak, this was your challenge was:

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Now your turn. Name spending cuts
(not FUTURE spending cuts that probably will never materialize,
but ACTUAL NOW spending cuts),
that Obama and the Democrats have supported.
I did that...

Re the debt ceiling... Your counting of D- and R- years as % is a silly argument.

Your way of looking at the graph is that the debt ceiling stayed constant
only 1 year under Bush Sr and 5 years under Clinton.
Wow ! that's a 500% better record for the D-'s than the R-'s !!!

The real point of the graph is that recent increases in the
debt ceiling are not the province of Obama or the Democrats only.
Looking a the "steps", it appears to me that the debt ceiling has
been increased every year but 6 since the first Bush,
and you remember what the R-'s did to him.

OHTH Carter gave Reagan an enormous surplus, and Reagan
squandered it away during his 8-year term on his 600-ship Navy.
The debt ceiling even had to be raised to accommodate that.

I can accept that both D- and R- presidents have raised the debt ceiling.
Can you ?

Last edited by Lamplighter; 09-22-2013 at 08:24 AM.
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