[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by dhamsaic
The fact of the matter is, unless you want to quit, you won't. That's what I'm trying to say. It's up to you to quit smoking. Whatever I can do to help, sure. But unless you want to, you won't.

Sure, a person has to WANT to quit. However, there are people who want to quit, try to quit, and cannot quit, for whatever reason.

But the whole "Well, the public should help us 'cause it's in their best interest" is kinda a shit argument. It's like me saying "Well, it's in the public's best interest to give me everything I want, because if they don't, I'll go kill people." BS logic.

You're already paying for smokers...whether you want to or not. If you have insurance, you (or your company) are paying premiums that help cover the treatment of smokers ailments. You can't deny the people treatment if they have insurance and get sick, as legal issues could come into play. As previously mentioned, many insurance companies cover drug and alcohol treatments. Why treat smokers differently than drug or alcohol abusers? Because they're "out in the open?" What does drug and alcohol rehab do? Hopefully, it makes people better and prevents dangerous ailments down the line, like cirrhosis. Same thing with smoking. If Zyban or Nicoderm or hypnosis or whatever makes people better, and prevents ailments like lung cancer for both smokers AND nonsmokers, everybody wins.

But if I were driving (heh, when I get a license and car), I would have politely asked that you not smoke in the car.

I had a feeling this might come up...

I wouldn't smoke in your car, or Jenni's car...because I know that neither of you smoke...nor would I smoke in your home. That's your environment.

By the same token, had I been asked not to smoke in my car, even though that was MY environment, I would have complied. I have no problem extending that courtesy.

If you want to live a healthy life free of physical addictions, then don't. I can't make that choice for you.

I do want to live a better life...and I'm not asking you or anyone else to make that choice for me.