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OnyxCougar · 03-15-2004, 10:22 AM

I disagree on the "it's not a baby" arguement. It IS a baby. It sucks it's thumb, it kicks, it moves, it responds to noise, it is a growing baby.

Make no mistake. No matter when the pregnancy is terminated, it is killing a child. If you don't terminate the pregnancy, it grows up to be a child. No matter what timeframe you kill it, it is a child. 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months, 10 months, 10 years. It's just the age of the child. Not fetus. That's just a slippery arguement to try to make people feel better.

If they would have strapped that woman down and cut her open, what would they have taken out? Twin babies. So what was in there? Twin babies. She was CARRYING twin babies. And she refused to be cut open, despite multiple doctors (not just one) telling her that one or both of her children (not fetuses) may die. Know what she said? "Then let them die."

Her refusal consitutes at LEAST neglect and endangerment. She willfully and with all medical knowledge available to her SIGNED A CONSENT FORM saying she knew the risks. She understood that one or both of her children could die.

I agree that government should have no jurisdiction over her body, and cannot force her to have a c-section.

But, as Radar is constantly telling us, in the "responsible world", the consequences of her actions, (the death of one of her children (not fetus)) should be met with the appropriate punishment. She made a choice that resulted in one of her children's death, and she should be punished accordingly.

03-15-2004, 10:22 AM	#100
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	I disagree on the "it's not a baby" arguement. It IS a baby. It sucks it's thumb, it kicks, it moves, it responds to noise, it is a growing baby. Make no mistake. No matter when the pregnancy is terminated, it is killing a child. If you don't terminate the pregnancy, it grows up to be a child. No matter what timeframe you kill it, it is a child. 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months, 10 months, 10 years. It's just the age of the child. Not fetus. That's just a slippery arguement to try to make people feel better. If they would have strapped that woman down and cut her open, what would they have taken out? Twin babies. So what was in there? Twin babies. She was CARRYING twin babies. And she refused to be cut open, despite multiple doctors (not just one) telling her that one or both of her children (not fetuses) may die. Know what she said? "Then let them die." Her refusal consitutes at LEAST neglect and endangerment. She willfully and with all medical knowledge available to her SIGNED A CONSENT FORM saying she knew the risks. She understood that one or both of her children could die. I agree that government should have no jurisdiction over her body, and cannot force her to have a c-section. But, as Radar is constantly telling us, in the "responsible world", the consequences of her actions, (the death of one of her children (not fetus)) should be met with the appropriate punishment. She made a choice that resulted in one of her children's death, and she should be punished accordingly.