[Nirvana]

Thank FSM for sensible UT! Some people think crate training is restrictive and mean. I have never used it to punish my dogs I use it as their space their place to be and they will own it. I give them bones when I am home and they get them in their crate. Big sloppy cow bones are messy. I have ACDs and Belgian sheepdogs the ones that stay in the house know when I leave they go to bed. I don't want to be mad at them for destroying things.