[Adak]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Across the pond.

Bloody clear, mate. I'm just messing with ya.

Right. That famously liberal president GWB...talk about moving the fucking goalposts.

The Conservative goals never budged, but Bush was a lunkhead of a social conservative, and a liberal on fiscal policies. In my view, that's backwards from what it should be.

More famously, (to me at least), he lied about WMD in Iraq. Iraq secret service had tried to assassinate his Dad on a trip (Bahrain I believe??), so he had an axe to grind with Saddam, clearly. Lying about the reason to go to war, is not the way to do it.

I'm not sorry to see Saddam dead, however. I don't think you are either?

And as to failing to rein in Wall St types....I'm sorry are we talking about the same mitt Romney? Are you seriously suggesting that he will in any way take on the Wall St types? They are his people. Look at how he conducted himself in business. He didn't create jobs in America, the country he professes to love, he sent that work to other countries where the workforce have fewer demands (like a living wage and contracted protections).

Unfortunately, neither party will take on Wall St. I'm beating a dead horse on this matter, I know.

He ran his companies for the sole benefit of the high-end shareholders and boardmembers. At the expense of the workforce.

EVERY business is run to make profit. That benefits everyone, or the employees find better jobs.

He pays minimal tax on vast wealth compared to most ordinary Americans, and that still wasn't enough for him. No, he still had to siphon funds offshore to reduce that bill still further. For himself and for his companies.

Romney doesn't even know what he pays in taxes, until after he signs the return. That's ALL managed as a blind trust so he can avoid any hint of favoritism.

Of course, his tax preparer makes sure he pays the least taxes - that what tax preparers DO. That's their one and only job!

That tax, which he is choosing to divert through international systems rightly belonged to the American people. He begrudges the American people the same levels of tax that other people are expected to pay out.

That's because of the way our stupid tax code is written. When you make money overseas, you pay taxes in the country you made it in, AND you pay taxes on it, in the USA.

Now, if you subsequently bring that money back to the states - guess what ?? You may be forced to pay tax on it, AGAIN.

That's one reason why all international investors in the US, keep a certain amount of money, OUTSIDE the US.

Romney did not create the tax code! He absolutely is following the requirements of the law - just like everybody else who invests both here, and overseas.

Frankly, if he's so patriotic, if he loves his country if he feels the burden of national duty is upon him, then he should have put his money where his mouth is.

Actually Romney gives a great deal to charity, both inside and outside his church.

It's crazy, I drive past a Staples every day. Now, the libs near and far, are vilifying the guy, because he's successful and saved businesses AND JOBS. Net effect for Romney? More jobs saved or created in America. Yes, jobs were also created overseas, but more jobs were also created HERE.


In the UK, you have successful businesses, but I wonder when the last time was that you really felt the thrill of a major upturn in your businesses and economy as a whole? Do you remember how great that was?

Seems like you never really recovered that entrepreneurial spirit, after the two WW's. You did some great mad stuff during WWII, though! Dam busting bombs, night fighting in North Africa, the great Bletchley Park stuff, the "man who never was", in Spain, sinking the Bismark, and that lovely Spitfire.

I miss THAT UK.