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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs
I'd be happy to have the Occupy group over. THEY are at least fighting FOR something, not against someONE.
I have read the Declaration and the constitution several times. The founding fathers were extremely smart FOR THEIR TIME.
Times have changed and things are not the same as back then.
Do you think people from 250 years before the founding fathers would have been ready for the ideas the founding fathers came up with?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheldonrs
I'd be happy to have the Occupy group over. THEY are at least fighting FOR something, not against someONE.
I have read the Declaration and the constitution several times. The founding fathers were extremely smart FOR THEIR TIME.
Times have changed and things are not the same as back then.
Do you think people from 250 years before the founding fathers would have been ready for the ideas the founding fathers came up with?
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The founding Fathers didn't come up with those idea's for gov't. They had been proposed earlier by men like John Locke, etc. They were smart enough to see the wisdom in them, however.
The Republicans are fighting for something:
1) a smaller, and more efficient gov't:
It may sound wacko to a liberal, but even governments, can't keep spending more and more Trillions of dollars, beyond their means.
That WILL collapse the monetary system, no matter WHO you are.
Also, as the gov't gets larger, and has more and more control over everything, it's obvious that your personal freedoms evaporate faster than the dew on a warm Summer morning. If you want to keep your freedoms, you have to limit the power of the gov't, to usurp them. For instance, if the feds control the health care system, they may say, that you could keep your current doctor. That sounds good. But once they have control of the health care system, they can change it in a flash, so you can't keep your doctor, and there is NOTHING you can do about it.
Because unlike a health care company, you can't take threaten them with a lawsuit, you can't take them to court. They've changed the law, and it's all legal, and you're just OUT OF LUCK. The gov't has what no company can have - sovereign immunity.
That's the big difference - with a company, they usually have an oversight gov't official - like the Insurance commissioner, you can appeal to. If that fails, you can take them to court, and force them to live up to the terms of their contract with you. And EVERY treatment option for you, when you can be seen by what specialist, etc.,
it's all up to the gov't.
This is the same gov't that took 5 days to get bottled water to the Superdome, during Hurricane Katrina (while 15,000 people or more, waited), and thought it was a good idea to put
burning tear gas canisters into the
WOOD frame building where the residents were staying, in Waco, Texas - catching the structure on fire, and burning them all to death.
Is this REALLY who you want to be in charge of setting up your health care system? Senators who tell you they'll "vote for the health care bill, and write it later?"
Really?
