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Old 10-01-2012, 01:52 PM   #27
Adak
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
How the fuck do you turn the turtle issue with the government into a "liberal" problem?

I agree this turtle thing is overblown, and not where our priority should be.
Sigh, and you were doing so well.
The hard core conservation groups are NOT far-left liberal groups? They haven't been anything BUT far left liberal groups, for decades. They didn't start out that way, but they have attracted the hard core lefties, and now they own them.
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You're right, not endangered. Both sides knew they were there and negotiated how to work around that from the gitgo, as the dune buggys had already been chased out. It turned out there is a shitload more of them than anyone thought, but a bunch have been run over by trucks and killed by bulldozers.

[Reagan] Now there you go again[/reagan] It ain't liberals, son, get your facts straight.

Well son, it's damn sure not the conservatives, stopping a much needed multi-million dollar project to bring in more electrical power!

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Would you suggest that our "James Bonds" each take a platoon of Marines with them on missions?
A freighter, clearly flagged American, in international waters, is not fair game. They are no better than the Somali pirates. I've read testimony that they knew it was American, saying so over the radio, at least very shortly after the first attack, but continued to attack, concentrating on the communications antennae.

No, this was a blatant and deliberate attack on the USA, but we still give them $Billions every year, put up with their military/industrial espionage/theft,
and them acting like petulant teenagers. I think they need a time out.
I know our spy friends will disagree, but I believe we do NOT need to have close in signal analysis done for Israel, especially when it is on a war footing.

I also don't believe we need to have close in signal analysis done by "freighters", unprotected. Marines? No, I was thinking a cruiser, a sub, and a couple of destroyers, should do the trick.

Ships are closely tracked, and that includes freighters. The idea that a "freighter", will be able to work covertly, is laughable.

If it has a great cover story, like the old Glomar Explorer did when it grabbed part of a sunken Russian sub in a CIA op, then MAYBE if it stays far from the coast, and most of the work is done beneath the waves.

Cultural Jews are typically petulant, imo. It is a strength and a bit of a curse, of their culture. If they're complaining, but not too loudly, then you know everything is A-OK.
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