[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Adak

I'm in California, and Reagan was our Governor before he ran for President, so I don't have to rely on hearsay, from others.

I'm well aware of Ronny Raygun's history.

Also, I've worked with welfare housing and school policies, for many years. I've seen how it works, and how it frequently leads to co-dependency:
The recipient has welfare benefits suitable to live with:
*If they get a job, they lose those benefits.
*the job would probably be a labor intensive type of work, and they
would earn low wages.
*If they subsequently lost their job, they would get some welfare benefits quickly, but have to wait a long time to get back their full welfare benefits, again.
So why should they work? They're risking a lot, just to maybe work at low wages. Maybe not full time.
The people who administer and provide support for these programs, will lose their jobs if the program stops. So it's in their best interest to enroll more people in their welfare program.:

Yes this is a problem. In the beginning it was to help the destitute and to keep the ones that were deliberately made destitute by racism, from lashing out. As each subsequent generation passes, trapped in the welfare system, the greater the despair of escaping and less the stigma/embarrassment of being in the system. But I'd still bet most would rather have a job making a decent living wage. There's no quick way out of this mess, and the only slow way is education, as far as I can see.

Why all the anger?

Moi? I don't play well with others, and don't take orders from anyone. Yes, I will cut off my nose to spite my face.

If Obama had any reasonable successes with his policies, I'd support him. As the first black President, I'd love to see him succeed. I was living in the Deep South during segregation. Yes, it was UGLY.

Point of order... Mulatto.
Successes, we covered that.

Problem is, Obama hung out with radicals in college (according to him), studied their ideology, and he's picked up a lot of their socialist ideas.

I have it on good authority that he shit his diaper as a lad, I bet the White House staff has to do a lot of chair cleaning.

Some socialist ideas I'd like to see (National health care), but his policy to implement it, is absolutely a complete mindless farce.

Oh yes, he needed radical socialists to point out one of our biggest domestic problems is we are getting raped of health care. Not by doctors, but Drug, appliance, and insurance companies, along with for profit hospital conglomerates. No way he could have know that without those radicals.

His other economic policies are likewise, a disaster. You do know that this is the worst economic recovery in our history?

Not implemented policies are to blame. OK

You can choose to believe Obama's rhetoric, or you can look around, read the stats from the non-partisan budget office, and choose to believe you own "lying" eyes.

Civics 101, congress controls the money.

There IS a reason, why Obama's budget has never been voted for, by ANYONE, in EITHER PARTY. That's how far out his economic policies are.

Parties don't vote, the house votes or doesn't... Boehner's house.

You can have your emotional tirade any way you want it, but the above is a FACT, and it won't go away, because you don't like it.

Statements like that cause...

We've had a LOT of political polarization going on in recent years. That's something we MUST get past.

A good plan, is a good plan, no matter who came up with it. And vice-versa, as well.

Yes, I know, and the Romney/Ryan plan is outrageous.

All of these ad hominem attacks against our leaders, are leading us down the wrong road, to an unhappy destination.

Tell O’Reilly, Hannity, Cavuto, Beck, Limbaugh, FOX, ad infinitum.

If Obama had good policies and plans during his time in office, I'd be supporting him, but he did not, and does not. He may look smart and cool, and charming - but the President doesn't need to be cool, or charming, or even appear particularly smart. I don't give a rat's patootie whether he appears on The Tonight Show, or not.

He needs to lead us into wise policies and practices, across a broad spectrum of economic, social, and as Commander in Chief, military, matters.

You are entitled to your opinion, but the fact that you are willing to buy into the Romney/Ryan plan for the domination of America by the 1% tells me you're sadly misguided.

And I don't need the damn EPA telling me I can't use plywood to build with, thank you very much!

They have? Cite please.