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Originally Posted by Sundae
Whose school books?
Not the Muslims I teach in my school. Probably not Rhianne's family. Not my friends in Leicester. No, not all Muslims are peaceable, decent people. But neither are all Americans. And they can be as far apart in action and ideology.
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These were school books for elementary kids, in Saudi Arabia. Laid out the value's of: pigs, other animals, Christians, non-believers, Jews, former Muslim's who had left Islam, and of course, Muslims.
It isn't the religion of Islam that is the problem. It is the ideology and common practices and idea's that have fastened onto Islam, like a barnacle to a ship. Some of those practices are good, some are indifferent, but some are just a parasite, and totally damaging to the religion of Islam.
Look back, into the actual history of Islam's leaders, and see just How many of those leaders were killed by their own followers? Even by their own followers within their branch or sect. It's a very high percentage, compared to other major world religions.
Even today, the Shia and the Suni, and the Sufi's, are regularly killed in sectarian attacks, from other Muslims.
When the Christians, with the blessings of the Pope and the King of France, were slaughtering the French Rosicrucians, it was dogma that by killing off the wayward sect, they were acting to "save" all their potential progeny from hell. Nipping it in the bud, as it were.
That would never be accepted in Christianity today, likewise "honor killings" for Muslims who leave the faith.
But that seems to be where Islam is left today. I know many Muslims are not violent, and not Jew-haters, but that is not enough. Overall, the Muslims have done next to nothing to protest the violent excesses and racial hatred incidents, within their faith.
Was it Edmund Burke who said: "For evil to prevail, all that's needed is for good men to do nothing."?
After the 9/11/2001, which was CLEARLY the largest and most publicized attack by violent and radicalized Muslims, did you see any large protests of that, from Muslims? Any Jihad groups trying to arrest or capture Osama Bin Laden, or other 9/11 leaders?
Anywhere?
Crickets.
That's all you heard from most of the Muslim followers - after the cheering and dancing in the streets scenes were done, of course.
I believe Mohammad got Islam off to a great start, but in the ensuing violence over who should be the leader after he was gone - and all the subsequent battles, the religion of Islam, didn't move forward, as it should have.
Unfortunately, as any group becomes more radical and/or violent, they attract more members who want to be more radical and/or violent. If they're not careful, the group will be taken over by them.