[Trilby]

You've been very clear. You seem to think the mantle of alcoholism is limited by your own narrow definition. Perhaps you did not read my previous posts closely - or even at all. I DO subscribe to a spiritual transformation - but I do not believe 'god' will/can keep me sober. I've got to do what I've got to do to remain vertically connected to my Oak Tree - which, if you knew anything at all about HP, you'd know that I CAN TOO HAVE AN OAK TREE FOR MY HP! So there, you pedantic thumper! Nyah!

I, in fact, canNOT do without this "thing" - I NEED my meetings to combat the isolation and craziness of my own head. I NEED my sponsor and literature to supplement my days with positive, life-affirming messages. YOU have made it plain that YOU've been "touched by an angel" and no longer suffer the problem of alcoholism. YOU ARE CURED! Good for you. Now kindly allow those of us who are striving for the kind of perfectionism you have achieved in peace.

And your use of "OUR" literature is offensive. The literature is for anyone WHO HAS A DESIRE TO STOP DRINKING. In fact, that's the only requirement for membership - or do you control that, too?

It's people like you who run off all the baby newcomers. You freak them out with your nuttiness.

btw - if your problem has been removed, why bother with meetings at all? To enlighten dumbfucks like me? You've got it all figured out. You should try to package and sell that stuff.