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BigV · 12-09-2011, 07:56 PM

Hey Clodfobble,

Thank you very much for your help. I went to the article at the link you provided (I didn't pay that much attention to mercy's post, though I now see it was there) and read the article, read the pdfs at the links in the article. I found it very informative. Very helpful, thanks.

As for the content, I think there's enough political looseness in this whole situation to allow lots of different ... ahem ... statements fly. Having read the article CF pointed out to me, I find my assessment of the author of the statement "officials plotting for political purposes" reaffirmed; not neutral, not centered on fairness. That's fine, really fine, people have opinions, positions, and I am at the head of that pack. But now I know how to view information coming from that source.

It no longer feels like "bullshit" as I estimated before, but neither do I believe it rises to the level of a conspiracy. I say this because the Demand 3 letter they were "gathering anecdotal evidence in support of" was the third such letter. Apparently Demand Letters have some precedent even before Operation Fast and Furious was pulled out of someone's ass. That's not what I'd call a "plot". Now we can debate, and certainly someone will, what the follow on consequences of this operation will be, or what the motivations were, who knew what and when did they know it, etc, etc. For sure.

12-09-2011, 07:56 PM	#130
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Hey Clodfobble, Thank you very much for your help. I went to the article at the link you provided (I didn't pay that much attention to mercy's post, though I now see it was there) and read the article, read the pdfs at the links in the article. I found it very informative. Very helpful, thanks. As for the content, I think there's enough political looseness in this whole situation to allow lots of different ... ahem ... statements fly. Having read the article CF pointed out to me, I find my assessment of the author of the statement "officials plotting for political purposes" reaffirmed; not neutral, not centered on fairness. That's fine, really fine, people have opinions, positions, and I am at the head of that pack. But now I know how to view information coming from that source. It no longer feels like "bullshit" as I estimated before, but neither do I believe it rises to the level of a conspiracy. I say this because the Demand 3 letter they were "gathering anecdotal evidence in support of" was the third such letter. Apparently Demand Letters have some precedent even before Operation Fast and Furious was pulled out of someone's ass. That's not what I'd call a "plot". Now we can debate, and certainly someone will, what the follow on consequences of this operation will be, or what the motivations were, who knew what and when did they know it, etc, etc. For sure. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.