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Originally Posted by classicman
Really? Lets start a little more broadly with the overall issue, ok. Forget the memo that guy was talking about. Thats got very little to do with this issue. Why you are so fixated on that is beyond me. The memo isn't an issue right now. Get an overall understanding of whats happened first.
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I don't want to start a little more broadly, I've already started.
Forget the memo? No, I won't unless you're willing to recant it. That kind of smear is a problem for me. "Obama is an anti-capitalists socialist alien who is actively trying to destroy the economy according to these memos." and then blathering on about something else entirely. Oops, never mind that, that's not an issue. It's an issue for me if I'm going to try to gain a broader understanding. If I'm going to try to develop the level of credibility I give one source or another. Unsubstantiated claims like that are not just trivial bullshit, they're real.
So, when I hear crap mixed in with other unknown stuff, what can I use to asses the validity of the unknown stuff? Well, it hangs out with crap, so... that's one data point.
Look, I think this "plan" by the ATF is stupid. Probably illegal too, though that is to be decided. Hopefully decided based on facts. And I'm trying to gather facts, not political bullshit/pandering/bloviating/propaganda. I'll set it aside as some kind of political irrelevancy when it comes to the facts of this matter. But it remains a fact about the quality of the source of information. Right now, that source is one that is long on opinion, and short on facts.