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Old 01-30-2004, 03:50 PM   #11
hot_pastrami
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Originally posted by lumberjim
and to take your argument one step further, should i be censored from telling people not to post shitty comments? where does the loop end?
No you shouldn't be censored. Nor did I attempt to do so. I just pointed out a severe pot-calling-the-kettle-black moment in your post, and mentioned that the reader may take a different meaning than the poster. That's very different from trying to tell you that you can't do it. Here's the text again:
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Originally posted by hot_pastrami
You say you don't like it when members try to censor each other, but isn't that exactly what you're trying to do when you post things like "...don't post a shitty comment that could make others think twice about contributing their thoughts...?" It's all subjective. To the one who posts it, it's helpful advice, trying to improve the community. To the reader, it can be criticism, censorship, etc. An open mind and thick skin are the best tools here.
I agree with your opinion, but I disagree about some of the fine points in your post. I don't think anybody is trying to censor anybody here, it's just a big opinion-flinging forum. Telling somebody to "Shut the fuck up, and go away!!" IS NOT censorship. Rude as hell, sure... but it's also an exercise in free speech. No matter how much I might disagree with what somebody has to say I can't actually DO anything about it beyond rebutting. I couldn't even harrass them if I wanted to, because there's a handy Ignore button.

I think the thing about "Free speech" that most people tend to forget is that while yes, one has to allow anyone to say whatever they want, whenever they want, they don't have to listen to them. If you don't like what someone posted, you don't have to read it. You made the same point in your post, but from the other side of the issue. It applies both ways.

I've got no problem with you Jimbo, I just think you might be having a hard time seeing things from other peoples' point of view on this one.... yet ironically, that's exactly what you're asking everyone else to do in your rant above-- to see things from someone else's point of view-- isn't it? To see things from the eyes of a newbie, who just wandered into the forum, with bright, hopeful eyes and thin skin? Well, that newbie's "rights" aren't the only ones to consider. That's my point.
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