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Originally posted by adamzion

My perspective on what the PLO wants is irrelevant, since what I think about what they want makes no difference.

However, as I have said before, former Israeli PM Ehud Barak made an offer to Yassir Arafat which included virtually all of the Gaza Strip, 90+% of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, <b>and</b> PA control of the Temple Mount- the holiest single site in Judaism (as compared to its being the third holiest in Islam). Arafat turned this down.
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And, as you forgot to say before, Barak also refused to commit to any details. Again you forget that one critical sentence that defines on which side failure resides. As in all previous agreements, those details, without a firm commitment, will only be withdrawn later by Likud. Adam again forgets to tell the whole truth in a hope that others will believe a 'lying by half truth' story. {point 1}

A need to avoid is telling. I posted again UN Resolution 242. UN 242 is fundamental to the peace process. Adam will not discuss it ...Why? {point 2}

Anyone who can understand and appreciate the other's opinions knows that "what I think about what they want makes [every] difference." Only a racist extremist would not be able nor willing to discuss what the other side wants. {point 3}

Adam posted an interesting but totally irrelevant map of the 1947 partitioning followed by much irrelevant notes from history. IOW avoid the most relevant parts of history: Oslo Accords and UN Resolution 242. Adam, you cannot even admit what is required for peace. Again you forget to mention THE fundamental reason why the peace talks broke down? You conveniently blame Palestinians because Barak would not commit to any details. This is nonsense. You know it. So again you post a half truth to put all blame on the Palestinians. {again point 1}

Fool me once, shame on me; fool me twice - even the Palestinians are not that dumb. Just watching Ted Koppel's town meeting in Israel tells us that Israel has too many racists in political power - therefore all details rquire full committed up front. Likud previously reneged on previous uncommitted details. The only way to settle with a right wing Israeli government; a commitment to every detail in detail.

Adam, silence on key points suggest you are a closet Likud. Your statements that Iranians, Syrian, Jordanians, Saudis, Tunisians, Egyptians, etc are really Palestinians implies paranoia. Your refusal to correct or even deny such silly posts suggests a racist mentality. Saudis are not Palestinians to those without racial bias. Racists have the 'them all is our enemy' hatred. {point 4}

Adam never acknowledges nor discusses these facts. Likud racist extremists fear these facts because they demand a fair settlement with those Likud regards as dogs. A 'closet' Likud also will not discuss facts in this paragraph: {point 5}

Ariel Sharon is a insuborinate, mass murderer, the father of the Lebanon nightmare, has violated international cease fires almost bringing the world to nuclear war, has a long history of blatant insuborination, and advocated the murder of Rabin. UN Resolution 242 and the Oslo Accords are the fundamental principals to all Middle East peace settlements. Jewish settlements in the West Bank and Gaza are in direct violation of international law and should be removed as part of a peaceful settlement.

Will we ever see UN Resolution 242 discussed in any post from Adam? Israelis interested in peace have no problem discussing UN 242 that defines a fair and equitable settlement. Will Adam? Points 1 thru 5 demonstrates that Adam has an entrenched, "screw them all", attitude. He cannot see the other side's position, does not care to even try, considers every non-Jew as an enemy or persective enemy (as he does the US, UK, Swiss, Netherland, and Japanese press), and denies by silence the fundamental principals for peace. What I first thought was a moderate may indeed be racist Likud who finds peace only murder and stealing of other's property.