The Cellar - View Single Post - Pissed Iraqi foreign minister kicks UN squarely in the nads

elSicomoro · 12-17-2003, 06:22 PM

I admire the guy for lashing out at the UN. The UN hasn't been all that effective in recent years.

Now, why his tirade can easily be blown off (not saying it should be necessarily, but why it can be):

--He's a Kurd. Kurds have had their freedom within Iraq more or less for several years, as I understand it. Has he been a guerilla fighter recently (between the time of Kurdish self rule and the US invasion)?

--The Iraqi Governing Council ultimately has to answer to the US. Therefore, this could easily be viewed as a US propaganda stunt.

--What exactly DID the US give Iraq in that one percent?

--Freedom is not free. I'm not saying that there haven't been Iraqis that have given their lives for freedom. But neither the United States nor the United Nations can or should be expected to come in and save nations. If one truly believes in freedom from oppression, you have to fight for it, and never stop fighting. And from where I'm sitting, it seems that the Iraqis quit trying shortly after the first Gulf War.

I'm not against going to help you out, but you have to help yourself too...

12-17-2003, 06:22 PM	#10
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I admire the guy for lashing out at the UN. The UN hasn't been all that effective in recent years. Now, why his tirade can easily be blown off (not saying it should be necessarily, but why it can be): --He's a Kurd. Kurds have had their freedom within Iraq more or less for several years, as I understand it. Has he been a guerilla fighter recently (between the time of Kurdish self rule and the US invasion)? --The Iraqi Governing Council ultimately has to answer to the US. Therefore, this could easily be viewed as a US propaganda stunt. --What exactly DID the US give Iraq in that one percent? --Freedom is not free. I'm not saying that there haven't been Iraqis that have given their lives for freedom. But neither the United States nor the United Nations can or should be expected to come in and save nations. If one truly believes in freedom from oppression, you have to fight for it, and never stop fighting. And from where I'm sitting, it seems that the Iraqis quit trying shortly after the first Gulf War. I'm not against going to help you out, but you have to help yourself too...