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Old 06-11-2010, 12:53 PM   #355
classicman
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Originally Posted by Redux View Post
It is not a solution. It is pushing the problem, to whatever limited extent, onto some one else.
Seems like thats whats been happening for years, if not decades. This time however it is being pushed onto those that are responsible for it - The Fed Gov't.
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Why do you think (or do you) more states should follow AZ's lead before they know it the law is constitutional and, if it is, whether or not it is enforceable and effectively addresses the problem.
IMO - If the Fed Gov't isn't going to address the issue and uphold its responsibilities, then the states should be able to do so.
This law in general, not specifically, does just that. It has brought this issue to the forefront again and the ball is now clearly in the Fed's court.

Do you really believe it was just coincidence that those 1,200 troops were ordered to be sent to the border and the $500 million??
Or was that simply political pandering on Obama's part? Was it a step in the right direction. IIRC - Bush sent 6000 troops.
5 times more than Obama.
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IMO, for any state to mimic AZ before those issues are resolved, are doing so for political purposes, not for the best public policy. Certainly the other border states are not rushing to follow the AZ lead..and good for them (including the two biggest states, CA and TX)
Then let them go there. That shouldn't be a problem for you. According to you, those states don't see it as an issue... or do they? There is so much conflicting information.
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Seventy-six percent of Houston Business Journal readers that responded to the survey would support an immigration law similar to that in Arizona.
Twenty-three percent said "no."There were 1,486 total responses.
As expected, the question resulted in a broad range of comments for and against the cause.
Nancyrae S. commented, "It really is tiresome to hear and read the ignorant remarks of the uninformed. This bill doesn't turn a state into a police state - you will not be required to present papers just because of your skin color or speech.

"The bill requires law enforcement to ask for proof of status if you are stopped for breaking the law. This proof can be as simple as a driver's license. Contrary to the idiotic remarks made by government officials - you will not be deported while out for ice cream or because you are overheard speaking in a different language."
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There certainly are no easy answers. There is no magic bullet, pill nor potion that will make this just go away. People will be hurt, there is no doubt. It simply must be dealt with and not pushed off as many things are in politics.
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