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Old 06-03-2010, 08:40 AM   #297
classicman
barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy.
 
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Of course, there is a cost to AZ directly related to illegal immigrants.
First time you have made that admission. Thanks.
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it is factually incorrect to say that illegal immigrants do not pay taxes.
I never said they didn't.
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I have provided data that federal expenditures on border security have increased significantly in the last 3-5 years.
You actually stated that Obama had done more than Bush. You are now altering your story to say 3-5 years.
No disagreement on this timeframe.
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...the number of illegal immigrants currently in the country is at its lowest point in the last 10 years...having peaked in 2007.
Which is directly related to the economic downturn.
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I am not for open borders, as you or others have suggested.
I am not for illegal immigrants having more rights than citizens, as you or others have suggested.
Add this - Take my posts and direct your response to me -
Take other people's posts and direct your responses to them.
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the only way to address the issue is to have comprehensive reform that provides more effective border security (not wasting money on a symbolic fence) AND a pathway to citizenship for most of the 12 million illegal immigrants in the country....NOT amnesty as it is mischaracterized for political purposes....but a process where they register, go to the back of the line, have a background check, pay taxes and fines, learn english, etc.
Aside from your fence point (I'd prefer a well constructed wall with checkpoints and medical facilities on the Mexican side) I mostly agree - its in the details of how to accomplish this. Additionally, the problem with anything that is seen as "Amnesty" or preferential treatment for the criminals already here is that creates a rush on the borders. Well that and the still lingering question of Who are these 12 million and which ones do we want to allow to stay?
I see no other way to control immigration without actually controlling it. Without a wall/fence or some other means, there is no way.
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