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					Originally Posted by Pooka  First of all... why would you want the government to have such a hand in your health care.  Think about it. | 
	
 First of all ... we disagree. That doesn't mean that either of us are idiots.
I want the government to have a larger hand in healthcare because I don't trust big, profit-motivated business (health insurance, pharma, providers). 
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					Originally Posted by Pooka  If the reason is to make it more available and more affordable for everyone... well... there is Medicaid | 
	
 The problem is that many people make too much to qualify for Medicaid, but too little to afford private health insurance. If they get ill or injured, their are screwed.
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					Originally Posted by Pooka  , there is Medicare | 
	
 Only if you're old
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					Originally Posted by Pooka  , and hospitals cannot deny you care if you go to an emergency room. | 
	
 The most expensive and wasteful care that you can get
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					Originally Posted by Pooka  do you buy cigarettes, sodas, alcohol… | 
	
 Don't mess with my alcohol...
 
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					Originally Posted by Pooka  I can tell you it won’t make it more accessible.  We can look to California and Canada as examples of “why not”. | 
	
 Most countries with nationalized healthcare are very happy with it.
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					Originally Posted by Pooka  You will wait longer for access. | 
	
 I work in an ophthalmology office. There is a 5-6 month waiting list for cataract surgery.
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					Originally Posted by Pooka  Your taxes will be higher. | 
	
 As high as your health insurance premiums + co-pays + medications? Probably not, considering that it would be spread over a larger, healthier base.
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					Originally Posted by Pooka  Obama doesn't like that Insurance companies increase premiums every year | 
	
 Neither do I. 
 
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					Originally Posted by Pooka  ... well... the population ages and is increasingly becoming sicker (they raise the premiums to cover the risk… they actually run on a fairly small profit margin)... | 
	
 
I think insurance companies are 
very profitable.