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Originally Posted by Redux
Good policeman or "freedom fighters" value diplomacy as the first tool to resolve conflict. They also understand that one size (American-style conservative) democracy does not fit all.
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But democracy and republicanism more generally conceived, that does fit well for the entire human race. Incremental steps toward the way that does indeed work are fine with me, so long as they come at a steady pace. There are no grounds whatsoever to not have confidence in an open society, a general franchise, economic liberty to the greatest degree, freedom of movement, of information, of finances, of security. Read your Barnett; I am way out ahead of all your argument here.
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And ponder the unintended consequences of their actions before invading and occupying a sovereign nation......2-4 million displaced persons and/or refugees, a government with long-standing ties to Iran, strengthening Iran's position in the region......
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Always with you, it's you know the price of everything, and the value of nothing. Shame on you, Redux. You should try being a visionary. Ground it in realism and wise strategy as well and carefully as you may, but be a visionary. It would be refreshing. It would also make you recognizably a person of freedom instead of the lesser sort of creature you are presently satisfied with being. (Too small for my spirit.)
Nor would I believe for a minute that our actions there "strengthen Iran's position in the region......" Certainly Iran is bidding for such strength, but it is not us that are making Iran strong, but Iran. They are going to try this, will we or nill we on Capitol Hill, having free will after all! Our actions are there to undermine their strength because absolutely no one outside of Iran trusts the mullahcracy to keep the peace or to bring prosperity.
Warfare is what it always was: the bluntest of instruments, working only by smashing. Do you think your complaints about it are original? Something new? Not so. Where did your desire to destroy the Saddams of the world go? I have it. I cannot see yours. I have virtue thereby.
Where is yours?