[OnyxCougar]

I don't watch Jay Leno.

But..you keep saying that the ISS isn't doing any science. I posted a link to the ISS science experimentation page and posted information from that page in this thread.

It may not be what you consider useful science, it may not be alot of science, it may not be what you consider relevant science, but it *is* science. And the experiments change with every set of astro/cosmonauts that go up there, so it's use is flexible.

Now, whether or not the ISS is overpriced or over funded or whatever is not what I'm discussing here. If you wanna get pissed, be pissed at the govt. for turning up it's nose a $8 billion for the collider, then spending god knows how much on "rebuilding" a country we should have pulled out of months ago that obviously doesn't want us in there. See, I'd much rather spend the money on 2 super colliders than on that. But that's for another thread.

BUT! You quoted the NYT:

Meanwhile, other countries are spending more on research, taking some of the glory that America once monopolized. Japan, Taiwan and South Korea now account for more than a quarter of all American industrial patents, according to CHI Research. Europe is working on what will be the world's most powerful atom smasher. ...

Oh, come on, now. Taking some of the glory that America once monopolized? That is so much "tug at the emotion" propaganda.... SO WHAT if we don't hold a monopoly on glory? The US is the only one allowed to have glory now? SO WHAT if Japan has more patents then us? Please explain to me how this is so horrific a thing, because I am missing something here. And please...please for the love of all that's good in the world, please...don't get personal and call me retarded or an imbecile. Please. Keep it friendly. I'm just trying to understand what you're saying and I'm asking for clarification.