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Old 12-04-2001, 10:50 AM   #17
juju
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Re: Re: 12/2: College freshman learns about dissent

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<i> The poster reads "We hang George Bush". That is a federal crime. However once inside the apartment (instead of reading it from the street), then read the fine print: "on your every word". The Secret Service agent did exactly what we want the agents to do. Only the paranoid would see a sinister government in this act. They rightly stayed around just to make sure she did not fit the profile of Lee Harvey Oswald and friends. That is what they are suppose to do. That is what federal law demands of the Secret Service.
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Don't you realize that we can't trust the government? The government is a good thing but it's also a necessary evil -- if we give it too much power it will trample all over us. We don't want the Secret Service wandering into our homes and accosting us because we gave our opinion on something. What are we, in Russia?



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It is illegal - a federal crime - to say to anyone that we should shoot or hang the President. Why? In Israel, one man did just that repeatedly - and as a result is now the Prime Minister thereby resulting in the massacre of innocents Jews and Arabs.
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So, speech kills, eh?

I get the feeling that you're saying that it's illegal, and therefore wrong. Is this what you're saying, or are you saying, "it's illegal, and also happens to conincide with morality."?

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There is certain speech that is not free. You cannot (and should not) make threats on a President's life just like you cannot yell fire in a theatre or that your gun in already on the plane. That speech is just not acceptable - or legal.</i>
This is where you and I just disagree. Some speech may be stupid, but I don't think you should be jailed for any of it. I disagree with the KKK, but as long as they're not stringing people up, I am happy for the fact that they can say "Fuck Niggers". <br><br>

Last edited by juju; 12-04-2001 at 10:55 AM.
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