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Old 11-11-2003, 03:51 PM   #47
hot_pastrami
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Your argument intentionally overlooks some very important details:

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Originally posted by OnyxCougar
She can't make time to visit the guy that ultimately was responsible for saving her life because she has commitments to her book?
1) I wouldn't say that he ultimately saved her life... the article says "The Iraqi lawyer, whose information helped lead U.S. soldiers to rescue the captured Wirt County resident..." (emphasis mine). So, he told somebody that she was there, and that information helped lead US soldiers to her. Helpful? Yes. Ultimately responsible for saving her life? No. That honor goes to the soldiers who actually went in and got her out.
2) It's not only her book commitments, but her 5-days-a-week physical therapy. So the woman doesn't use some of her very limited free time to meet with an Iraqi citizen? Gasp!
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Originally posted by OnyxCougar
While I appreciate that she joined the military, and that she put her ass on the line for her country (and indirectly me), that does not automatically equal hero.
The guy that threw a grenade into his CO's tent was in the military, too. Is he a hero?
That bacon from the other thread...he was in the military too. That make him a hero?
Dubya was in the military. That make him a hero?
My exhusband has been in the military for damn near 20 years. That make him a hero?
My nephew is in the Marines and was in one of the units that entered Baghdad that day. He was in one of the units that Oliver North was embedded in. Is my nephew a hero?

No.
Well, you have a point. Joining the military isn't going to automatically make anyone a hero. But if that person was already a decent, honest person, and that person put herself in physical danger and risked her life for her country, it makes her something closer to a hero than most of the population, probably including you.
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Originally posted by OnyxCougar
The best she can come up with is "I don't remember."
Untrue. She has stated many times that the stories of her fighting heroically just before her capture are completely unfounded. She is spreading the truth of her story in the face of lies and propaganda.
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Originally posted by OnyxCougar
The one, presumably, that says she was raped. When all the doctors say she wasn't.
The only doctors saying she wasn't raped are Iraqi doctors, who also admit that they weren't looking for evidence of rape.

I wonder, what must a person do before they may have the honor of being considered a hero to you? Save a life? She was there in Iraq trying to save many lives. Tell the truth? She does so where most people would lack the moral conviction to do the same.

NOTE: I was still typing this when dave posted his stuff.
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