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Old 11-04-2003, 08:39 AM   #43
OnyxCougar
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Originally posted by quzah

Hypocrisy: You getting sad at free little dolphins being killed, but it being ok to raise and kill cattle.

Quzah.

I still don't understand why you think I'm a hypocrit on this:

If the Japanese were raising dolphins to be killed just like we raise cattle to be killed, Sato's comparison would be the same. But the Japanese aren't raising the dolphins, they are cornering them and slaughtering them, sometimes days going by before they actually die. Hence the outcry, the photo and this thread.

There is a difference between free animal and raised animal. So I feel different about free animal and raised animal.

Koreans eat dog. They breed and raise a certain type of dog for food. I've eaten dog when I was in Kunsan, Korea.

I don't have a problem with Koreans eating raised dog.
I would have a problem if a Korean came to my house, stole my dog and ate it, or if they went to the house across the street, someone I don't know, and stole their dog and ate it.

I think to me, the fundamental difference between raised meat and wild meat, is that in raised meat, there is less suffering in the butchering process than the descriptions in the greenpeace website in regards to these dolphins.

If you corral a bunch of cows, indescriminately stab away and it takes 3 days for the thing to die, I have a problem with that. If you corral a bunch of dogs, pigs, dolphins, sharks, pirahna, whatever, and they suffer for three days before they die, I have a problem with that.

I'm not thrilled about deer/elk/moose/rabbit/pheasant/quail/javelina/whatever hunting, because sometimes the animal gets wounded instead of killed, and runs away to die slowly. I think that's wrong. But...it is in accordance with the law and I will die to defend anyone's right to lawfully hunt game. That's why I said in the first posts, if the Japanese are hunting dolphins in accrdance with international law, it's not our place to decide for them. Doesn't mean I have to l like it.

But my original post, again stated for clarity, is about Sato's statement, as quoted by Whit, and Whit's reply that it's a logical argument. Coliano expressed it better than I did (thank god) and I've managed to calm down a little. I still do NOT see hypocrisy in my statements, quzah, and I want you to be more specific, pointing out places that I was.
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