[sean]

Gotta love those scots! I'm a big fan of Richard Holloway. But yeah. I can see where you're coming from.

But I think somewhere between 'Virtue' and 'Duty' there's actually room for a humble little concept, verging on the ethological, which is called 'empathy', which to me is something innate, and not entirely unique to humans.

The interesting thing about empathy is that it can be educated, to a large extent by understanding the possibility and extent of harm.

What I can't accept is that there is such a thing as an objective 'knowledge' of the nature of virtue, which seems to be what Aristotle and other supernaturalists want us to believe.