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Now go do your homework or something. I'm not going to try to debate this issue with you any further, you're not prepared.
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Just because you *state* something you think is obvious dosen't make it *true*, and challenging you to back it up with reason isn't "muddying" it, except to the extent that it forces you to focus on how muddy it was to begin with.
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Well i did some homework, porvided solid statisical evidence with analysis by experts that a gun saturated society results in more shooting deaths which you then proceeded to ignore and instead branded me a troll for another minor comment. ah fuck this thread i'm sick of it.