Haggis.
For the record, I consider c-man a friend. We should never ever talk politics to each other. Mostly this issue, which I still consider to be of the big NON variety, sticks in my craw because of the seeming constant watchful eyes for anything that seems inappropriate for our President (this, Michelle's clothes...those kinds of things) when it all really is just "who gives a rat's ass?"
That, and whenever you point this out, you are deemed an ass-kisser, you hear snide remarks like "oh he's not our savior?" and a million other tiny comebacks to go with tiny points.
It gets tiring, and when I saw this I thought "you're freaking kidding me." So I said as much.
Eh, this thread degraded as much as any thread where classic and I discuss politics.
and haggis