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I would have disagreed with you about Kali, had I not seen his incredibly selective report. He mentioned all the people who responded negatively, or with suspicion, to his attempts at diplomacy as if that characterised the Cellar. He didn't bother to mention that several people defended him and took his diplomacy as it was intended.
I'd be happy if I don't encounter any more Discordians. I don't much like discord.
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