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lisa · 11-21-2001, 06:40 AM

Ouch! I do think that's a little harsh, wwarner11.

It feels like you're calling her stupid for losing her checkbook but I'd say that's something that we all might do at one time or another. I, myself, left a purse in a restaurant at lunch last week. Fortunately it was still there when I went back.

But, I do agree that it was a mistake and actions should be in place to lessen the impact on the individual when sometheing like this happens... I would say that there are a couple of problems in this check scenario, none of which, IMHO, would be solved by a national ID card.

Dafydd, I'll accept your story as given... That you realized the loss less than 30 minutes after it occured and (implied) immediately notified the bank.

If the bank holds you accountable, in any way, for checks that were cashed there, I'd lodge a formal complaint against them and switch banks. That should be easy enough -- there's usually plenty of banks around.

As for the pizza places, If what you are saying is true I think their company policies stink! First off, they accepted checks with NO ID? I doubt that a NID card would solve the problem since I doubt they even ever asked for a state one. I'd again seriously consider writing a letter to their corporate HQ explaining the situation and contact the local press and BBB. I would bet that you could put some pressure on them if it bothers you that much to not be able to get a Domino's pizza.

Yes, these things are nusisances and we "shouldn't" have to go through this trouble. But, considering how few (relatively) people have to deal with these problems, I still hold my opinion that an NID would, in the long run, remove freedoms and that is NOT worth the small additional security that we would gain.

BTW, did everyone know that MasterCard and Visa's agreements with stores state that they cannot require ID before accepting the cards? Many consider that stupid... I consider it a convienence. Especially given that, by law, the maximum that I can be held liable for, without proof that *I* made the charges, is $50.00.

11-21-2001, 06:40 AM	#24
lisa Etherial Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: CA Posts: 153	Ouch! I do think that's a little harsh, wwarner11. It feels like you're calling her stupid for losing her checkbook but I'd say that's something that we all might do at one time or another. I, myself, left a purse in a restaurant at lunch last week. Fortunately it was still there when I went back. But, I do agree that it was a mistake and actions should be in place to lessen the impact on the individual when sometheing like this happens... I would say that there are a couple of problems in this check scenario, none of which, IMHO, would be solved by a national ID card. Dafydd, I'll accept your story as given... That you realized the loss less than 30 minutes after it occured and (implied) immediately notified the bank. If the bank holds you accountable, in any way, for checks that were cashed there, I'd lodge a formal complaint against them and switch banks. That should be easy enough -- there's usually plenty of banks around. As for the pizza places, If what you are saying is true I think their company policies stink! First off, they accepted checks with NO ID? I doubt that a NID card would solve the problem since I doubt they even ever asked for a state one. I'd again seriously consider writing a letter to their corporate HQ explaining the situation and contact the local press and BBB. I would bet that you could put some pressure on them if it bothers you that much to not be able to get a Domino's pizza. Yes, these things are nusisances and we "shouldn't" have to go through this trouble. But, considering how few (relatively) people have to deal with these problems, I still hold my opinion that an NID would, in the long run, remove freedoms and that is NOT worth the small additional security that we would gain. BTW, did everyone know that MasterCard and Visa's agreements with stores state that they cannot require ID before accepting the cards? Many consider that stupid... I consider it a convienence. Especially given that, by law, the maximum that I can be held liable for, without proof that I made the charges, is $50.00.