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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

The fuck it doesn't, it's got everything to do with it. It was a culture of followers, order takers, don't rock the boat, don't make waves. The Japs did what they were told without question.

That is true but I have never once focused on the Japanese population. I have only focused on the people giving the orders when I say "will to continue". I have given you many quotes of leaders who thought continuing the war was pointless. That supports my statement.

Unless you think that the leaders couldn't think from themselves. Which in case I must ask who was giving orders then? God?

Leadership? The military was leading the country, you think they started a war they knew they could not win? For what purpose?

Pearl Harbor was a gamble that ended badly for the Japanese. They knew they could never take the United States head on so they gambled pearl harbor for time and resources they did not get.

It is not hard to see why the United States overtook the Japanese. Our resources, manpower, and economy was tenhold theirs.

It is shown the Japs were in Washington looking for peace when Pearl Harbor was bombed. The duplicity of the japs in morning coats is well know. They pulled the same shit destroying the Russian fleet in 1908.

Good point but in both those situations (Pearl Harbor and Russian fleet), they Japanese made an offensive move. There was no possible way they could make an offensive move on the United States after Okinawa, not possible.

Saying I want peace has a much different effect when you are planning on blindsiding someone versus you are on your back get your face smashed into the ground. The second has a 95% chance of being more sincere.

Nice link.

Nice response....

Just because information came from wikipedia doesn't mean it is false. Plus, I have most of my information from books that I cannot link too so I am doing the best I can without putting in unneeded time providing more reliable sources.

Two atomic bombs and half wanted to keep fighting. I guess we forgot to say "Simon Says, give up".

Japanese leaders (generalization) made their own decisions, the population were the sheep.

When the teacher wants to do math, it doesn't fucking matter that the first graders want recess.

Explain this. I don't know how that makes any sense to my quote.

Wrong, they couldn't hold on to Manchuria if they moved those soldiers out, but it's a moot point because they didn't have the food or supplies to support them. The Russian soldiers have to live off the land like Sherman in GA.
It's a long swim to Japan, the only way the Russians could have gotten there is if we moved them and that wasn't going to happen. They might have been able to get something going in '47, maybe even late '46, but not '45.

The Soviets were already there. The mobilized right after they took over Berlin. They were in the Kuril Islands in 1945.