Thread: Torture memos
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:08 PM   #11
Jill
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Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post

What I find remarkable is how certain you are of the effectiveness of these methods. How could you have this level of certainty?
I'm certain because I've done my homework. I've studied the history. I've read the evidence.
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Originally Posted by Undertoad

You're at odds with the CIA interrogators whom, I'm certain, know more about it than do you or I or anybody writing for McClatchy. I'm guessing that it works because the CIA interrogators think it works.
Cite that they think it works. It didn't "work" to thwart the attacks in L.A., because that attack was thwarted a full year before the waterboarding began. It didn't "work" to enough of a degree that they stopped using it in 2004. If it was so effective, why stop?
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Originally Posted by Undertoad

I'm also guessing that it works because I personally am a huge pussy, and would tell every intimate detail I had in order to avoid even getting tased.
You're doing an awful lot of guessing.
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Originally Posted by Undertoad

I am guessing that your certainty is driven less from application of careful thought, and more from the fiery passionate hate you hold for torture. Your passion is admirable, and shows you deeply care. But don't let it burn you because at the end of the day there is no substitute for careful thought.
Once again, you guess wrong. Especially after the well-cited post I provided to you above, I find it highly insulting that you would charge me with not applying careful thought to my opinion or conclusions. I wish I could find your obviously uneducated guessing as admirable, but I don't.
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