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Originally Posted by classicman
Who is "they" and how do they "KNOW"?
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I said: King Abdullah of Jordan said yesterday that they had actually been able to turn some members of al Qaeda and got them to work FOR them. They damn sure didn't get them to do that by torturing them.
They = Jordanians King Abdullah of Jordan said yesterday that they (Jordan) had actually been able to turn some members of al Qaeda and got them (al qaeda prisoners) to work FOR them (Jordan). They (Jordan) damn sure didn't get them (al qaeda prisoners) to do that by torturing them (al qaeda prisoners).
I guess they
know because maybe the people they were able turn supplied them with information that was good? I don't know, he wasn't specific. Go watch Meet the Press from yesterday and see for yourself.
Is my language that hard to understand, or are you just giving me a hard time?
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Please cite a few cases of who "we" have prosecuted.
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Please don't tell me you didn't already know this...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110201170.html
The United States knows quite a bit about waterboarding. The U.S. government -- whether acting alone before domestic courts, commissions and courts-martial or as part of the world community -- has not only condemned the use of water torture but has severely punished those who applied it.
After World War II, we convicted several Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American and Allied prisoners of war. At the trial of his captors, then-Lt. Chase J. Nielsen, one of the 1942 Army Air Forces officers who flew in the Doolittle Raid and was captured by the Japanese, testified: "I was given several types of torture. . . . I was given what they call the water cure." He was asked what he felt when the Japanese soldiers poured the water. "Well, I felt more or less like I was drowning," he replied, "just gasping between life and death."
Nielsen's experience was not unique. Nor was the prosecution of his captors. After Japan surrendered, the United States organized and participated in the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, generally called the Tokyo War Crimes Trials. Leading members of Japan's military and government elite were charged, among their many other crimes, with torturing Allied military personnel and civilians. The principal proof upon which their torture convictions were based was conduct that we would now call waterboarding.