Thread: Torture memos
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Old 04-24-2009, 07:15 AM   #131
TheMercenary
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Originally Posted by Redux View Post
Merc...there is no doubt that Pelosi and the other leaders of the Intel Committees were briefed. What is not clear is the extent of those briefings.
I guess that if she was briefed she needs to stand up now in the face of the recent releases of the memos and come clean as to what she knew. Instead she is acting like she had no part in any of this. If it truely was "torture" than she is culpable in any action that Congress wants to take against those in the know. She is standing by why others may get thrown under the bus.

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But assuming she and the others was fully briefed on the details.......what could they do?

Under security agreements with the CIA, they could not discuss the briefings....could not ask staff to review the legal opinions of the DoJ....could not raise public concerns (if she had any - and w/o knowing the facts, I agree she probably had no concerns) with other members of the Intel Committee....could not withhold funding w/o disrupting all CIA operations....
Where did they release what the security agreements were with the CIA. Maybe I just missed this but no one I know of has stood up and told us just what those were, or are you making an assumption here. This is not a personal attack. If you have the information as to what those specific security agreements were maybe you could point me to a link.

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IMO, this is one of the greatest weaknesses of the current oversight of the CIA....the public policy issue that has the greatest potential for abuse has the least opportunity for Congress to fully review and take preventive or corrective action before the Executive Branch goes too far.
You may be right. But IMO we are about to gut the CIA Operations Branch for years to come. And it would be more than a decade to get them back into the business of agressive gathering of intel. The world does not play by the Gentlemen’s Rules of Imbibage, and those that think it does will lose completely.
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