04-21-2009, 04:02 PM
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is fleeing the scene
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Beautiful CO
Posts: 1,510
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Quote:
Originally Posted by henry quirk
'What do you hear when people say 'freedom'?'
a fiction
really: what are any of us 'free' of?
each of us is bound up in, and by, 'the world' (both within and without)
none of us are 'free', so: 'freedom' is a nice fiction, a convenient, and sometimes useful, fiction, but still a fiction
what we each have is far more powerful and real than 'freedom' or 'free will': we have agency, or, the capacity to choose
not an unlimited capacity to choose, but -- at all times, in all circumstances -- a capacity, a possibility, nonetheless
and synonymous with agency is self-possession, that is: the willful claiming of one's self and the defense of that claim
i claim my 'self' as my first, best, property and do as i like within the broad boundaries of 'the world'
your job -- if you want it -- is to defend yourself against my possible predation on you (just as i must defend myself against predation by you)
seems to me: you defend against the predator simply because you value yourself (a subjective, idiosyncratic, perception), not because of a 'moral', or 'law'
certainly: climbing atop a soapbox (on a street corner, or, in the statehouse) and droning on about the sanctity of your 'freedom' nets a body nothing... --henry quirk
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So am I incorrect in stating that your opinion is that freedom does not exist, and we have no reason to care for others, other than what we can take from them?
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