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Oh yeah, and flamefests start for two reasons. One is that someone makes a completely ridiculous statement in an asshole-ish manner and someone that knows better decides to take them to school. The other reason is that someone makes a perfectly reasonable and sound statement and some idiot thinks it's wrong and responds in a dickheaded way. Reasonable person becomes very unreasonable and proceeds to give them a beatdown.
jaguar is typically one of the ones that is getting a beatdown.
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