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Originally Posted by regular.joe
The battle ground is the theory of evolution. The underlying theme of the battle is whether or not God is or God is not. Not wether or not evolution is a workable theory or not.
That question can not be answered by the theory of evolution. I think it is misguided to use things such as the theory of evolution to prove or disprove God.
God either is, or God is not. As far as I can tell this is a very personal matter. It is also misguided for a believer to get all in a huff over a non believers status as a non believer.
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Young Earth Creationists believe that God created the heavens and the earth, all the water and land and plants and animals and humans, etc in 6 twenty four hour days. They get their information from one source: the Bible.
Progressive Creationists (and Intelligent Design folks) Think there is a desiger God who created the universe using the various scientific laws, and let those laws work to make all life, etc. They try to take man created ideas and mash them together with Biblical ideas so that everyone can be happy.
The battle is really this: Either Creation is true or it is not. Evolution as a stand alone idea (even if I wasn't one of those Creationist nutters) doesn't work when you examine it critically. But lets compare the two:
Creation:
God made the earth FOR humans, and He made all the animals and made humans stewards of the whole thing, to take care of.
He made the earth perfect.
He gave humans free will, and they screwed it all up
Screwing it all up was the first instance of sin, which is what brought death and decay to the world.
The dumbass people didn't learn, and a big flood came and wiped out everyone but a family on a big boat.
The dumbass people still didn't learn and so the Creator decided to come down to the Creation and walk about in their form, and show them how to do it, at the same time, creating a way for these dumbasses to hang out with him after their time here.
God Created the world, it's his, we're just (supposed be) taking care of it while we're here. He made it for us, specifically. We are unique.
Since he created it, (and us), he knows more than we do, and we are answerable to him.
How you live your live matters, because wherever you go after you die, you'll be there alot longer than you'll be here.
Man was prior to death.
There is an absolute right or wrong.
Evolution:
Something exploded out of nothing. It was only by an astronomically large number chance that even an amino acid simply popped into existance (in a soup that is death to amino acids, by the way.)
Millions of deaths (and years) later, another one (again, against astronomical odds) simply popped into existance in the toxic soup. Supposedly, this happened enough that those magical amino acids (all of which were spinning the wrong way) suddenly fused together in the soup and some how figured out how to make a working cell wall and mitochondrial cells and energy transporation routes. This continued for billions of years, against ALL odds and logical thought.
Nothing created anything, it's all random chance.
There could be billions of other intelligent life forms in the universe who all happened to have the same unfathomably small odds of evolving too.
Humans are answerable to no one. They are the top of the food chain. There is nothing, no power greater.
How you live your life doesn't matter, because this is all there is.
Death created man.
There are no absolutes. It's all random chance.
The two ideas are diametrically opposed in every way. The war is between God and the Devil, the human mind is the battleground, and the prize is our souls (look up Nephesh for who/what has a soul and who/what doesn't).