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jaguar · 11-07-2001, 04:31 PM

*rolls eyes before slamming head into desk*
I read though those comments, what can I say? Good work treating the symptom not the cause.

There has always been nutters, fundamentalist religious types, political extremists, the key thing is they do not have popular support, so they really are pretty useless. Its when the have popular support for whatever reason that they become dangerous. Certain conditions need to be met before they get popular support, namely, people have to be pissed off about something. It may that they have no food to eat, no money, they are being invaded, their culture eroded against their will, many others.

Example: Hitler, Hitler rose to power after WWI which, in all honest, shitted on the Germans, they were made powerless, ineffectual it made them feel impotent and screwed their national pride, not to mention annihilating their economy. SO you have angry, hungry, poor people looking for someone to blame and along comes Hitler, full of answers, a soldier with answers and so her gets popular support.

Apply this to the Middle East, in different areas its different reasons but the underlying reasons are the same, destruction/erosion of culture making people go to extremes in a desperate attempt to protect it. Economic and political reasons in Palestine (look at IoTD I’d be pissed too if a tank shell went though my living room) and in some cases its purely religious (US troops in Saudi Arabia, the spiritual have of Islam) IN all these cases Islamic Fundamentalism I is like Hitler, its there, it seems to have answers and a scapegoat, so people have flocked to it.

There are huge macro-economic issues here about differences in the first and third world living conditions, and the fact our living conditions are at the cost of the third world, there are large cultural issues with globalization and smaller localized issues. Bolting the cockpit door after the terrorist has left will not solve the issue. Until these issues are solved the west (not just America) should brace itself for 10-50 years of this.
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11-07-2001, 04:31 PM	#2
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	rolls eyes before slamming head into desk I read though those comments, what can I say? Good work treating the symptom not the cause. There has always been nutters, fundamentalist religious types, political extremists, the key thing is they do not have popular support, so they really are pretty useless. Its when the have popular support for whatever reason that they become dangerous. Certain conditions need to be met before they get popular support, namely, people have to be pissed off about something. It may that they have no food to eat, no money, they are being invaded, their culture eroded against their will, many others. Example: Hitler, Hitler rose to power after WWI which, in all honest, shitted on the Germans, they were made powerless, ineffectual it made them feel impotent and screwed their national pride, not to mention annihilating their economy. SO you have angry, hungry, poor people looking for someone to blame and along comes Hitler, full of answers, a soldier with answers and so her gets popular support. Apply this to the Middle East, in different areas its different reasons but the underlying reasons are the same, destruction/erosion of culture making people go to extremes in a desperate attempt to protect it. Economic and political reasons in Palestine (look at IoTD I’d be pissed too if a tank shell went though my living room) and in some cases its purely religious (US troops in Saudi Arabia, the spiritual have of Islam) IN all these cases Islamic Fundamentalism I is like Hitler, its there, it seems to have answers and a scapegoat, so people have flocked to it. There are huge macro-economic issues here about differences in the first and third world living conditions, and the fact our living conditions are at the cost of the third world, there are large cultural issues with globalization and smaller localized issues. Bolting the cockpit door after the terrorist has left will not solve the issue. Until these issues are solved the west (not just America) should brace itself for 10-50 years of this. </rant> __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain Last edited by jaguar; 11-07-2001 at 04:34 PM.*