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Originally posted by russotto
I have a PA state license and I've never read the driver's manual nor taken the test. In any case, only the actual law is authoritative, not the driver's manual.
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Did you move here from out of state (as I did)? I didn't take any test either, which quite frankly concerns me.
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Red light cameras not only aren't foolproof, they have high potential for and a history of abuse. And since there's no defense to a red light camera ticket, _all_ errors (honest or otherwise) are charged to the victim.
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That's not true. Depending on the nature of the situation, red light tickets CAN be argued successfully. The Washington Post ran a story on DC's traffic cameras a little over a year ago. They noted a) the fact that DC police WERE pulling a stunt on drivers along N. Capitol St., just outside Union Station (where they had the timing on this "useless" light off, causing people to "run" the light and get a ticket), and b) that many people have successfully argued their way out of tickets, in one way or another.
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Yeah, but who is the more innocent, the nice young girl with kidney disease through no fault of her own, or the degenerate (and yes, hospital personnel DO use that term to refer to patients) in the trauma ward who wrecked his car while speeding through a red light? You think no one would be tempted not to let one die to save the other?
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Come on Russotto, be realistic here. The situation you bring up is RARE, certainly not the norm. Think of the Hippocratic Oath.