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Sundae · 12-10-2008, 03:04 PM

Back to the OT - the main reason I can see for a campus-wide ban is the damn MESS smokers make. Packets, wrappers and butts, butts, butts, butts.

Somehow, reasonably civic-minded people think that the wrapper and foil from a cigarette packet don't count. And butts can be flicked anywhere - they're not litter!

When I smoked in a public place, I would use an ashtray. If there wasn't one I would extinguish my butt and bin it next opportunity. I didn't even like flicking my ash on the ground - and certainly not on the carpet, as I saw MANY people do in pubs, even when an ashtray was on the table! I would always upbraid those with me if I saw them doing it.

Okay, it's not specifically smokers - there are plenty of litterers out there. But it seems to me that smoking-littering has become worse here since the indoor smoking ban. Kinda like some people's reaction to the removal of litter bins on station platforms due to the IRA using them as bomb containers. "FINE THEN! I'LL JUST THROW IT ON THE FLOOR!"

The sorry thing is that then as well as now, it is unsightly, unpleasant, anti-social and unnecessary. Inconvenient? Yes. Suck it up, Mary.

12-10-2008, 03:04 PM	#8
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Back to the OT - the main reason I can see for a campus-wide ban is the damn MESS smokers make. Packets, wrappers and butts, butts, butts, butts. Somehow, reasonably civic-minded people think that the wrapper and foil from a cigarette packet don't count. And butts can be flicked anywhere - they're not litter! When I smoked in a public place, I would use an ashtray. If there wasn't one I would extinguish my butt and bin it next opportunity. I didn't even like flicking my ash on the ground - and certainly not on the carpet, as I saw MANY people do in pubs, even when an ashtray was on the table! I would always upbraid those with me if I saw them doing it. Okay, it's not specifically smokers - there are plenty of litterers out there. But it seems to me that smoking-littering has become worse here since the indoor smoking ban. Kinda like some people's reaction to the removal of litter bins on station platforms due to the IRA using them as bomb containers. "FINE THEN! I'LL JUST THROW IT ON THE FLOOR!" The sorry thing is that then as well as now, it is unsightly, unpleasant, anti-social and unnecessary. Inconvenient? Yes. Suck it up, Mary.