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Right now, you've shown me you know the cost of everything -- but do you know the value of anything?
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Yes. Tip Mug-hitting dwellars pay for the COST of this discussion; your posts add absolutely no VALUE to it.
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Rhetorical fluff aside (although when we remove the rhetorical fluff from your posts, they're empty), let's review so we can think in a straight line:
UG: It is, after all, hardly unlibertarian to remove libertarianism's most determined foes, or democratic republicanism's as an intermediate step in the development of a more libertarian society in a country that not only could use it, but is probably incapable of being run any other way, between geography and psychology.
UT: That, UG, depends on whether what ends up there is a Democratic Republic. Most pundits say it won't. Does that change your usual?
UG: All you need do is continue removing any foes of libertarianism that present themselves. Whether by conversion or by gunfire, the absence of antidemocrats is very much a good thing, is it not?
UT: But it looks like the biggest thing to quicken the rule of law in Iraq was announcing that we might stop doing that.
UG: I'm in favor of anything that works.
UT: OK, well what we've done so far hasn't created Democracy.
UG: We haven't been doing it long enough.
UT: So you're not in favor of leaving...
UG: No! You can't point to anywhere that I said that! I said that the only thing that will work is killing and conversion, with a heavy emphasis on the killing.
UT: So although threatening to leave worked a little, killing and converting people for five and a half years kinda hasn't worked, and you are in favor of anything that will work, you want to continue to kill and convert people and not leave, although you angrily point out that nobody can find you saying you didn't want to leave.
UG: Yes. Keep killing and converting. What little faith you have.