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Old 11-10-2008, 10:46 PM   #149
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Originally Posted by classicman View Post
I don't think so - I think the D's are gonna walk away from a fight they think they cannot win. There thought process is apparently to use that money to help Americans here instead of spending $5000.00 a SECOND in Iraq.
How do we win a war when it is only a civil war? How do we win a war when our leaders cannot even admit who the enemy is? When the strategic objective is not defined? When even the General (Petraeus) says we cannot win this war - that the war can only be won by the combatants? When two out of three potential antagonists want us out? And when basic military concepts make it obvious why we cannot win that war?

One in another discussion knows that shooting people will always win a war - the same strategy that created victory in Nam and justified spending money on "Mission Accomplished".

The questions left unanswered and ignored are massively long. Obama could answer one every day in office and still have a list half as long. Most all of these questions (such as those for Afghanistan) have no simple answer - could never be answered in a day. This new president has one of the most daunting tasks I have ever seen a new president confront - even back when I watched Kennedy defeat Nixon.


A justified war in Afghanistan continues to be lost because some idiots did not know basic military concepts AND therefore handed the country back to the Taliban. We have so screwed up the justified war that our allies are now leaving the battlefield. Soon to leave are Canada and Netherlands. Because our leaders were so dumb, a former American General commanding in Afghanistan says we now have about 10 more years to win that one if we decide to actually fight it.

Of course. He is only saying what military commanders knew even 2000 years before North America was discovered. Only one completely devoid of basic military knowledge would deny that. Why would some of the world's closest American allies finally give up in frustration? They are tired of virtually no American support and a war that cannot be won due to a misguided strategy imposed by America.

"Mission Accomplished" will never be an American victory. The question is how severe will be the loss. It appears that when we leave (now or in five years), the Civil War will only pick up in violence OR the various parties will finally do what America can never make possible - a peace table settlement. Obama's question is to spend those ten more years or seek a more reasonable settlement.

We have created a great instability where even Afghanistan and Pakistan are adversaries. This diplomatic problem is not for the feign of mind or for anyone whose solution is more guns.

Meanwhile, where is that question that only decent Americans ask? When do we go after bin Laden?

This new president has one of the longest list and some of the most challenging decisions I have ever seen waiting for an incoming president. And that includes every president even back when Kennedy defeated Nixon.

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