[jaguar]

ill jsut quickly go though a few things before changing tack

Israel doesn't have free reign to go after the terrorist organizations in their host countries. The United States

Most of them are in Palastine and surrounding areas, they've bene killing, successfully leaders recently fr months, 'copter attacks and the like. It has has little or no impact. Its like that greek/roman goddess with the smake hair thing, cut off one another regrows.

Don't tell _me_ I don't get it. I've run smack into the DMCA; I know what it does. (and no, I can't give details; that's the problem with the DMCA...). I know there's still a chance it can get struck down, too. The SSSCA is dead for now. The anti-terror bill is a nasty and ugly thing, but it certainly has nothing to do with "corporate money".

was merely pointing out that the govt is passing laws that undermine the constitution.

So where's the problem? I like tax havens. The bills I've seen to stop their use are all quite ugly themselves.

Tax haven's have/are beign used by evilevil terrorist types to move money secretlywhich is why there is now a real effort to pass thsoe bills.

They're buying YOUR government too. And Europe.

I know, but europe is nowhere as bad.

But what any of this has to do with Osama bin Laden, I don't know. The United States could be a totalitarian dictatorship, and destroying a terrorist organization which attacked the country would STILL be justified.

True, that was (and the rest of that bit and other bits) baout patriotism now about terrorist attacks.

Don't have to kill every single terrorist in the Middle East. Just destroy the organizations, so the remaining terrorists don't have the money or co-ordination to carry out really big attacks. Where the WTC is really big and the anthrax thing isn't.

And oyu really think that is possible? Really? Every cell, every million? Estimated half a mil to the the WTC bombing, taht ain't much really.

Sure. But a whole bunch of them seem to want to kill Israelis at any cost. And THOSE are the ones you have to worry about.

Sure, but if you remove the majority of support, you remvoe the majority of their operating capacity without shooting anyone, great eh? This is the crux of the issue, instead of shooting/bombing everyone, try dealing wiht the issues.

I see. We should give in to the terrorists. Yeah, that'll help. So we pull our troops out of Saudi Arabia, and withdraw support for Israel. I see two likely scenarios resulting from that:

Saudi troops are the biggest cause of tension here, heathens in thier holy land, really i cannot blame them. Its like an evengalical christian setting up camp in my room, i'd want the fucker out too.

I meant push Isreal towards peace, not withdraw support, my bad on the wording.

Now....

ah crap ill continue this later (dinner)