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Old 10-09-2008, 06:11 PM   #52
tw
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Originally Posted by BrianR View Post
Could YOU shoot your own brother or parents? I couldn't.
How many disapproved of torture and yet openly endorsed Guantanamo? Denied Abu Ghriad until the pictures made it impossible to deny. And then said torture was necessary to protect America. I don't have your optimism.

Simply go back to 2002 The Cellar when the few who were posting accurately denied 'Saddam has WMD' myths AND then used basic military doctrine to deny mythical WMDs justified war. Back then, the majority believed outright lies and doctrine that violated basic American principles. That same mindset also loaded live ammunition in rifles at Kent State and fired on student - killing many who were only walking to class.

I have seen the majority routinely let their feelings make decisions for them. I have no doubt that a significant minority if not the majority of soldiers would fire on civilians. History says they would. Psychology experiences showed people shocking screaming victims only because they were told to do so. I believe history and those science experiments long before I believe your reasoning.

Too many do not understand how to ask embarrassing questions - a need to know why. You saw me actively opposing others who *felt* 'Saddam has WMDs' only because they were told to believe it.

Too many foolishly and openly advocated torture only because they *felt* torture worked. Openly advocated torture even when professional interrogators said torture results in no useful knowledge. Why did so many (if not the majority) advocate torture? For the same reason that soldiers would fire on civilians if ordered to do so.

Did you forget My Lai? You must to believe soldiers would not fire on angry and demonstrating brothers.
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