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warch · 07-11-2003, 11:27 AM

Another difference is that one is a BIG courtroom lie about a private sex act and the other is a teeny lie, or even a teeny oversite of known intellegence,..that supported a very public decision which has impacted the lives of BILLIONS of people.

Is Clinton stupid for not just saying "Yeah, Me and Mon, we got it on." Yes.

Is Bush stupid for not ensuring, checking at every level that the FACTS used in a State the Union Address to the American people, to JUSTIFY WAR were solid and the most recent knowlege? (he is ultimately in charge, right? This should have been given top priority, I mean I know he has a lot on his plate, but the fact checkers should be on the job, right?) Yes. And further, did the factual report of Iraq actively seeking uranium from Africa really matter to the case of war, really bolster the arguement for self defense and the need for preemptive measures, YES thats why it was included.

So although they are very different forms and content of Presidential misinformation, its interesting to guage the various levels of outrage or forgiveness from the public. So what I was saying was that factual mistakes in a State of the Union address designed to sway opinion strike me as a bigger deal. Strategery.

07-11-2003, 11:27 AM	#12
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Another difference is that one is a BIG courtroom lie about a private sex act and the other is a teeny lie, or even a teeny oversite of known intellegence,..that supported a very public decision which has impacted the lives of BILLIONS of people. Is Clinton stupid for not just saying "Yeah, Me and Mon, we got it on." Yes. Is Bush stupid for not ensuring, checking at every level that the FACTS used in a State the Union Address to the American people, to JUSTIFY WAR were solid and the most recent knowlege? (he is ultimately in charge, right? This should have been given top priority, I mean I know he has a lot on his plate, but the fact checkers should be on the job, right?) Yes. And further, did the factual report of Iraq actively seeking uranium from Africa really matter to the case of war, really bolster the arguement for self defense and the need for preemptive measures, YES thats why it was included. So although they are very different forms and content of Presidential misinformation, its interesting to guage the various levels of outrage or forgiveness from the public. So what I was saying was that factual mistakes in a State of the Union address designed to sway opinion strike me as a bigger deal. Strategery.