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Originally Posted by classicman
Gez - tw did you get a lemon from GM or what?
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Posted are facts without emotion. You end up seeing today what I was posting about defective and anti-American companies typically 5 years earlier. I said same about AT&T. As a result, AT&T was sold off for little but its name. If you think GM is bad, you have not yet seen how bad it can get - unless you read my post.
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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus
Maybe tw lived in Poletown in 1981.
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Poletown? A GM trophy of excellence created by Roger Smith (of Roger and Me)? That got the Baldridge Award because quality increased so much in one year and was still a lowest quality plant even in GM.
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Originally Posted by Flint
Even equivalent Hondas got better mileage 20 years ago than they do now. The reason is tighter emissions controls.
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After Sycamore praise the 40 MPG numbers from his 2008 GM subcompact (J-car or whatever it is called today), I did some long trips. Decided to see what this mid 1990 Honda Accord would do.
196.5 miles 5.136 gal ($19.00)
218.2 miles 5.823 gal ($22.01)
297.6 miles 7.768 gal ($30.44)
Consecutive tanks got 38.3, 37.5, and 38.3 MPG. Well my 1980 Honda Accord was only doing about 30 MPG and never more than 34 MPG. Why does the heavier car get better mileage? Tighter emissions controls mean higher gasoline mileage - if properly implemented.
So why does the much larger and 10+ year older Honda Accord do mileage numbers approaching Sycamore's? One company innovates. GM eventually uses the technology when finally forced to.
Those who know how bad GM products really are find nothing unusual in the tone of that post. GM is that bad. GM management is so misguided as to even believe and preach hydrogen as a fuel. How many innovations in the GM innovation pipeline? One. The Volt. A failed concept. New GM designed engines still use push rods - an technology obsoleted starting in the 1970s.
Why is GM stock so low. GM has virtually nothing to address America's energy problems - other than do what the competition was doing ten and twenty years ago. Where is this Malibu that routinely does 30 to 34 MPG as my 10+ year old Honda Accord does routinely?
GM is doing to America only what American enemies would do. Some so hate America as to buy GM products. GM is a major reason why America consumes twice as much energy per person as any other nation. Today, GM's Rick Wagoner was talking about GM products doing a major increase - 23 MPG. The national average held down by buying politicians was 26 MPG. To address our energy problems, GM products must average 40 MPG. My every Accord (and a GM car I owned in 1975) routinely exceeded 30 MPG. GM stifling innovation is a major reason and perfect example for higher energy prices.